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| The Old Justice was a pub near the river on the [[Locale Bermondsey|Bermondsey]]/[[Locale Rotherhithe|Rotherhithe]] border, serving Korean food. It has now closed. |
Pub near the river in Bermondsey. The front part of the pub is just a standard lager-drinker's pub, no real ale, nothing particularly exciting or unusual. (However, the owner is planning to reinstall the handpumps and get some real ale in for summer 2007.) |
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[http://londonkoreanlinks.net/2015/05/24/farewell-old-justice-hello-k-place/ According to London Korean Links], it closed in early 2015. According to the South East London CAMRA mailing list, as of Autumn 2015 it's due to reopen as a craft beer pub called [https://twitter.com/WinnicottSE16 The Winnicott]. |
The interesting bit is the saloon bar out the back — it's been converted into a restaurant area which serves Korean and Japanese food, along with a selection of more standard pub grub. There's also an outdoor dining area/beer garden leading off the saloon bar; it's pretty nice, with fairy lights and plenty of plants in pots. |
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The information below is retained for historical purposes. |
Food is served noon–10pm every day; you may be able to get food between 10pm and 11pm if the chef happens to still be around, but don't rely on it. |
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<div class="old_info"> Pub near the river on the [[Locale Bermondsey|Bermondsey]]/[[Locale Rotherhithe|Rotherhithe]] border. |
[[Kake]], [[doop]], and [[Bob]] visited on a Wednesday evening in March 2007 to try some of the Korean dishes. The food was pretty good, and sensibly priced. The Korean pancakes with spring onions and seafood, served as a starter, were tasty; hot, tender, and crisp without being oily. Vegetables with sizzling rice in a stone bowl were good too, particularly the mushrooms, though it was a bit of a surprise to find meat in the dish as well. (We don't think vegetarians would like it here. That was the only vegetarian-sounding dish on the Korean menu, and it, well, wasn't.) |
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The front part of the pub is just a standard lager-drinker's pub, no real ale, nothing particularly exciting or unusual. (Although it does now have one handpump, on a June 2010 visit the pump clip was turned round and the young man behind the bar didn't think it was ever likely to be coming back on.) |
Service was friendly too. The ambience was a little bizarre, since just after we arrived a group of young men from the front of the pub decided they'd rather bring their drinks round to the restaurant part and watch the football there instead of in the crowded lounge bar with everyone else, but they were perfectly polite and didn't cause any trouble. |
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The really interesting aspect, and perhaps the main reason to choose this place over any of the other locals around here, is the saloon bar out the back — it's been converted into a restaurant area which serves Korean and Japanese food (noon-10pm every day, as of May 2007, with a possible extension to 11pm if the chef happens to still be around). |
Not sure I'd really describe this as a restaurant; although it has a separate entrance and there's no throughway to the lounge bar, it really felt more like a room in a pub than a restaurant (especially given the sport-infested flatscreen TV in the corner). But that's not necessarily a bad thing. |
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[[Kake]] visited the front part on a sunny Sunday afternoon in June 2008; there was quite a contrast between the scattering of solemn tourists (French and American, I believe) sitting on the benches out the front and the cheerfully loud and tipsy locals inside (who I was quite happy to banter with, but who might well come across as scary or intimidating to some). Strongbow was £2.80/pint and Guinness £3/pint. Another visit on a Friday afternoon in June 2010 was very similar, though with fewer tourists (Strongbow £1.60/half this time). |
<div class="getting_here">Getting here: Probably the easiest (though not the shortest) way to find the Old Justice is to come out of [[Bermondsey Station]], cross the road at the crossing, turn left, and take the next right, which is Bevington Street. Follow this all the way to the end, and the Old Justice is on your right, with its main entrance just around the corner on Bermondsey Wall East, and the restaurant entrance around the next corner from the main entrance. Note: the photo above is taken from Bermondsey Wall East; if you follow these directions then you'll be approaching from behind the pub on the right hand side of the photo. (No, it doesn't look as if there's a street there, but there is.)</div> |
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The back room is perhaps not really describable as a restaurant as such; although it has a separate entrance and there's no throughway to the lounge bar, it really feels more like a room in a pub than a restaurant (especially given the sport-infested flatscreen TV in the corner). On our May 2007 visit, there was also an outdoor dining area/beer garden leading off the saloon bar; it's pretty nice, with fairy lights and plenty of plants in pots, but in June 2008 this door was closed and we don't know if the garden is still in use. |
See also: * [http://www.southwarkweekender.co.uk/food-and-drink/00,news,3471,187,00.htm Southwark Weekender review of the restaurant] * [http://www.hwacha.net/nyamnyam/old_justice Nyam Nyam review of the restaurant] * [http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/comments.shtml/20592/ Beer in the Evening comments on the pub part] * [http://fancyapint.com/pubs/pub2980.html Fancyapint review] |
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[[Kake]], [[doop]], and [[Bob]] visited on a Wednesday evening in March 2007 to try some of the Korean dishes. The food was pretty good, and sensibly priced. The Korean pancakes with spring onions and seafood, served as a starter, were tasty; hot, tender, and crisp without being oily. Dol sop bi bim bap (vegetables with sizzling rice in a stone bowl) was good too, particularly the mushrooms, though it was a bit of a surprise to find meat in the dish as well (a friend of the landlord tells us via email that they'll make it vegetarian if you ask). |
<small>GPS data collected by [[Kake]] on a Garmin eTrex, 28 March 2007, and released into the public domain: OSGB 534467, 179702</small> |
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[[Kake]] and [[Bob]] had another go at the Korean food on a Sunday evening in June 2008. (Bob had wanted to order from the Japanese menu, but it wasn't available that evening.) Kake went for the dol sop bi bim bap again (£6.50) <small>[http://flickr.com/photos/kake_pugh/2565309087/ photo]</small>, and it was again good. Bob had the chargrilled belly pork (£7); sadly, although they have proper grills embedded in the tables now, there needs to be at least two of you having barbecue for this to be sensible, so it came already grilled and chopped on a sizzler platter. |
<div class="last_verified">Food last sampled by [[Kake]], [[doop]], and [[Bob]] on 28 March 2007. Opening hours and food times confirmed with the owner (by [[Kake]]) on 6 May 2007.</div> |
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<div class="getting_here">Getting here: Probably the easiest (though not the shortest) way to find the Old Justice is to come out of [[Bermondsey Station]], cross the road at the crossing, turn left, and take the next right, which is Bevington Street. Follow this all the way to the end, and the Old Justice is on your right, with its main entrance just around the corner on Bermondsey Wall East, and the restaurant entrance around the next corner from the main entrance. Note: the photo above is taken from Bermondsey Wall East; if you follow these directions then you'll be approaching from behind the pub on the right hand side of the photo. (No, it doesn't look as if there's a street there, but there is.)</div> |
Comment added by Kake: A visit on a sunny Sunday afternoon in June 2008; quite a contrast between the scattering of solemn tourists (French and American, I believe) sitting out the front and the cheerfully loud and tipsy locals inside (who I was quite happy to banter with, but who might well come across as scary or intimidating to some). |
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See also: * [http://kimchisoul.wordpress.com/2012/02/03/old-justice-new-concept/ Kimchi Soul review of the restaurant] * [http://web.archive.org/web/20070708074054/http://www.hwacha.net/nyamnyam/old_justice Nyam Nyam review of the restaurant] * [http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/comments.shtml/20592/ Beer in the Evening comments on the pub part] * [http://fancyapint.com/pub/2980 Fancyapint review] * [http://londonkoreanlinks.net/2008/06/13/the-craziest-pub-in-london/ London Korean Links review] * [http://chechemui.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/old-justice-pub/ CheChe's Blog review] * [http://themightyaubergine.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/korean-restaurants-in-london-busan-old.html Mighty Aubergines review] * [http://flickr.com/photos/kake_pugh/2566313924/ Photo of the Japanese menu as of June 2008] * [http://flickr.com/photos/kake_pugh/2565492285/sizes/l/ Photo of the Korean menu as of June 2008] <div class="last_verified">Last visited by [[Kake]], June 2010. Food last sampled by [[Kake]] and [[bob]], June 2008.</div> </div> |
They still do Korean food, and they also offer Sunday roast (£9, including soup to start and dessert to finish) between noon and 10pm. A blackboard near the front entrance lists the "Happy Old Justice" daily offers: on Monday you can get a free mixer with any shot; on Tuesday,free nibbles are available after 5pm; Wednesday features 3-for-2 on bottled beer; Thursday, free home-made crisps; Friday is BOGOF on fish and chips; and on Saturday you get one free dish with any Korean meal. |
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postcode='SE16 4TY' summary='Pub in Bermondsey, incorporating a Korean restaurant.' summary='Now closed; was a pub in Bermondsey, incorporating a Korean restaurant.' website='' |
Pub near the river in Bermondsey. The front part of the pub is just a standard lager-drinker's pub, no real ale, nothing particularly exciting or unusual. (However, the owner is planning to reinstall the handpumps and get some real ale in for summer 2007.)
The interesting bit is the saloon bar out the back — it's been converted into a restaurant area which serves Korean and Japanese food, along with a selection of more standard pub grub. There's also an outdoor dining area/beer garden leading off the saloon bar; it's pretty nice, with fairy lights and plenty of plants in pots.
Food is served noon–10pm every day; you may be able to get food between 10pm and 11pm if the chef happens to still be around, but don't rely on it.
Kake, doop, and Bob visited on a Wednesday evening in March 2007 to try some of the Korean dishes. The food was pretty good, and sensibly priced. The Korean pancakes with spring onions and seafood, served as a starter, were tasty; hot, tender, and crisp without being oily. Vegetables with sizzling rice in a stone bowl were good too, particularly the mushrooms, though it was a bit of a surprise to find meat in the dish as well. (We don't think vegetarians would like it here. That was the only vegetarian-sounding dish on the Korean menu, and it, well, wasn't.)
Service was friendly too. The ambience was a little bizarre, since just after we arrived a group of young men from the front of the pub decided they'd rather bring their drinks round to the restaurant part and watch the football there instead of in the crowded lounge bar with everyone else, but they were perfectly polite and didn't cause any trouble.
Not sure I'd really describe this as a restaurant; although it has a separate entrance and there's no throughway to the lounge bar, it really felt more like a room in a pub than a restaurant (especially given the sport-infested flatscreen TV in the corner). But that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Getting here: Probably the easiest (though not the shortest) way to find the Old Justice is to come out of Bermondsey Station, cross the road at the crossing, turn left, and take the next right, which is Bevington Street. Follow this all the way to the end, and the Old Justice is on your right, with its main entrance just around the corner on Bermondsey Wall East, and the restaurant entrance around the next corner from the main entrance. Note: the photo above is taken from Bermondsey Wall East; if you follow these directions then you'll be approaching from behind the pub on the right hand side of the photo. (No, it doesn't look as if there's a street there, but there is.)
See also:
- Southwark Weekender review of the restaurant
- Nyam Nyam review of the restaurant
- Beer in the Evening comments on the pub part
- Fancyapint review
GPS data collected by Kake on a Garmin eTrex, 28 March 2007, and released into the public domain: OSGB 534467, 179702
Food last sampled by Kake, doop, and Bob on 28 March 2007. Opening hours and food times confirmed with the owner (by Kake) on 6 May 2007.
Comment added by Kake: A visit on a sunny Sunday afternoon in June 2008; quite a contrast between the scattering of solemn tourists (French and American, I believe) sitting out the front and the cheerfully loud and tipsy locals inside (who I was quite happy to banter with, but who might well come across as scary or intimidating to some).
They still do Korean food, and they also offer Sunday roast (£9, including soup to start and dessert to finish) between noon and 10pm. A blackboard near the front entrance lists the "Happy Old Justice" daily offers: on Monday you can get a free mixer with any shot; on Tuesday,free nibbles are available after 5pm; Wednesday features 3-for-2 on bottled beer; Thursday, free home-made crisps; Friday is BOGOF on fish and chips; and on Saturday you get one free dish with any Korean meal.
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