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[[Category Fuller's|Fuller's]] pub in [[Locale Belgravia|Belgravia]], a long-standing entry in the [[Category Good Beer Guide|Good Beer Guide]] and a long-standing favourite of several RGL contributors.
Fuller's pub in [[Locale Belgravia|Belgravia]], a long-standing entry in the Good Beer Guide.
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There's no TV and no piped music, which makes it a good place to actually talk to people. It was refurbished in February 2008, and the function room upstairs was converted into a "dining room"; tables can be booked for dinner, but they no longer accept function bookings. The facilities have also been improved — the gents' are now described by [[elvum]] as "spacious", and while the ladies' toilets are still quite cramped, they're at least a bit smarter than they used to be.
[[Kake]], [[Bob]], [[Martin]], [[elvum]], [[Richard]], [[Robbie]], and the rest of the collective have been coming here for years. It used to be a truly great pub. Now, the beer is still excellent, but the food is neither as cheap nor as good value as it used to be; though it's still not bad for the area.
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On [[John]]'s Friday afternoon visit in July 2008, it was pretty much empty at 4pm (fewer than 10 customers), although it was a bit busier by 6pm; on a second July 2008 visit on a particularly warm Thursday evening, it was very busy at 6:30pm, but by 7pm there were a few empty tables and by 9pm it was pretty quiet. When [[bob]] et al. visited on a Wednesday evening in May 2013 it was quiet throughout the evening from when we arrived about 6:15pm.
Beers available on Kake's August 2008 visit were the usual Fuller's quartet (London Pride, ESB, Discovery, Chiswick) and a guest ale, Ossett Pale Gold (£3.05/pint); both Discovery and Pale Gold were well-kept, as one would expect from this place. They also had a very neon cocktail menu, with nine choices ranging from £4 for a whisky sour to £8 for citrus rum punch (presumably a large serving). Possibly more interestingly, they had a whisky menu, offering twenty whiskies from nine countries, with 25ml measures priced between £2.10 for Armorik (France) and £4.95 for MackMyra Preludium 05 (Sweden) or Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye (USA).
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Beers available on Kake's August 2008 visit were the usual Fuller's quartet (London Pride, ESB, Discovery, Chiswick) and a guest ale, Ossett Pale Gold (£3.05/pint); both Discovery and Pale Gold were well-kept, as one would expect from this place. They also had a very neon cocktail menu, with nine choices ranging from £4 for a whisky sour to £8 for citrus rum punch (presumably a large serving). Possibly more interestingly, they had a whisky menu, offering twenty whiskies from nine countries, with 25ml measures priced between £2.10 for Armorik (France) and £4.95 for MackMyra Preludium 05 (Sweden) or Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye (USA). The beer has always been very good, including on our most recent visit in May 2013.
Following the February 2008 refurb, the function room upstairs has been converted into a "dining room"; tables can be booked for dinner, but they no longer accept function bookings. There are separate menus, but food from the dining room menu can be ordered for consumption in the bar. The facilities have also been improved - the gents' are now described by [[elvum]] as "spacious", and while the ladies' toilets are still quite cramped, they're at least a bit smarter than they used to be.
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The quality and value of the food has varied over the years. [[bob]], [[Martin]], [[elvum]], Richard, Jacob and Hannah tried the food in October 2007. The general consensus was that the steak was small (approximately 4oz), overcooked, and generally worth closer to £6-7 than the £14 that it cost. [[bob]] also wished the [[FAQ|pie heresy]] (puff pastry on top of a bowl of stew) to be noted. In late May 2008 the quality of the steak was excellent, but the portion size was still a little on the small side.
The pub part always used to be quite full till about 9pm most nights; not sure yet if the new dining room has affected this. On [[John]]'s Friday afternoon visit in July 2008, it was pretty much empty at 4pm (fewer than 10 customers), although it was a bit busier by 6pm; on a second July 2008 visit on a particularly warm Thursday evening, it was very busy at 6:30pm, but by 7pm there were a few empty tables and by 9pm it was pretty quiet. [[Kake]] also visited on a Friday afternoon, in August 2008, and it was pretty much as John says. There's no TV and no piped music, which makes it a good place to actually talk to people.
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As of August 2008, the food situation is thus: the Fuller's website says food is served Monday to Friday, noon-4pm and 5pm-9pm (and this is backed up by a lunch menu examined by Kake). According to a staff member, the evening menu and lunch menu are very similar but differ in a few respects.

The quality and value of the food has varied quite a lot over the last couple of years. [[bob]], [[Martin]], [[elvum]], Richard, Jacob and Hannah tried the food in October 2007. The general consensus was that the steak was small, overcooked, and generally worth closer to £6-7 than the £14 that it cost. [[elvum]] commented that approximately 4oz of steak for £14 is not a good deal. [[bob]] also wished the [[FAQ|pie heresy]] (puff pastry on top of a bowl of stew) to be noted.

[[bob]], [[Martin]], [[elvum]] and Richard visited again in late May 2008. The quality of the steak was excellent, but the portion size was still a little on the small side.

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As of May 2013, food is served noon-4pm and 5pm-9pm Mon-Fri, noon-7pm Sat, and noon-5pm Sun. On our visit in that month it was pretty good. [[Richard]] was very happy with his steak if not so enthused by the jenga chips (&pound;15) <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8789270628/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small>. [[Robbie]] enjoyed his fish &amp; chips (&pound;9.80) <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8789286080/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small>. [[Martin]] had a decent burger (&pound;9.80) <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8789410064/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small>. [[bob]] had a basket of whitebait from the specials menu (didn't note price, but about &pound;5-6) <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8783146705/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small> and a portion of chips (&pound;3.80) <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8783161287/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small>, both of which were very good.
[[bob]] and several others visited in May 2013 on a Wednesday evening. The pub was very quiet. The beer was very good as it has been everytime we have visited. The food was pretty good. [[Richard]] was very happy with his steak if not so enthused by the jenga chips (&pound;15)<small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8789270628/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small>. [[Robbie]] enjoyed his Fish & Chips (&pound;9.80)<small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8789286080/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small>. [[Martin]] had a decent burger (&pound;9.80)<small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8789410064/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small>. [[bob]] had a basket of whitebait which was a special<small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8783146705/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small> and a portion of chips (&pound;3.80)<small>[www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8783161287/in/set-72157633887907748 photo]</small> both of whuch were very good.
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[[Kake]], [[bob]], [[Martin]], [[elvum]], [[Richard]], and [[Robbie]]'s collective verdict: We've been coming here for years and the beer is always excellent. The food isn't as cheap as it used to be, but the prices still aren't too bad given the area.
Food serving time in May 2013 are Mon-Fri 12:00-16:00 17:00-21:00, Sat 12:00-19:00, Sun 12:00-17:00.
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* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/sets/72157633887907748 bob' photoset on Flickr]
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* [http://www.qype.co.uk/place/34821#reviews Qype comments]
* [http://www.qype.co.uk/place/34821 Qype comments]
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* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/sets/72157633887907748 photoset] of food and drinks from May 2013 by [[bob]]
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<small>GPS data collected by [[Kake]] on a Garmin eTrex, 12 April 2007, and released into the public domain: OSGB 528113, 179347</small>

Fuller's pub in Belgravia, a long-standing entry in the Good Beer Guide.

Kake, Bob, Martin, elvum, Richard, Robbie, and the rest of the collective have been coming here for years. It used to be a truly great pub. Now, the beer is still excellent, but the food is neither as cheap nor as good value as it used to be; though it's still not bad for the area.

Beers available on Kake's August 2008 visit were the usual Fuller's quartet (London Pride, ESB, Discovery, Chiswick) and a guest ale, Ossett Pale Gold (£3.05/pint); both Discovery and Pale Gold were well-kept, as one would expect from this place. They also had a very neon cocktail menu, with nine choices ranging from £4 for a whisky sour to £8 for citrus rum punch (presumably a large serving). Possibly more interestingly, they had a whisky menu, offering twenty whiskies from nine countries, with 25ml measures priced between £2.10 for Armorik (France) and £4.95 for MackMyra Preludium 05 (Sweden) or Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye (USA).

Following the February 2008 refurb, the function room upstairs has been converted into a "dining room"; tables can be booked for dinner, but they no longer accept function bookings. There are separate menus, but food from the dining room menu can be ordered for consumption in the bar. The facilities have also been improved - the gents' are now described by elvum as "spacious", and while the ladies' toilets are still quite cramped, they're at least a bit smarter than they used to be.

The pub part always used to be quite full till about 9pm most nights; not sure yet if the new dining room has affected this. On John's Friday afternoon visit in July 2008, it was pretty much empty at 4pm (fewer than 10 customers), although it was a bit busier by 6pm; on a second July 2008 visit on a particularly warm Thursday evening, it was very busy at 6:30pm, but by 7pm there were a few empty tables and by 9pm it was pretty quiet. Kake also visited on a Friday afternoon, in August 2008, and it was pretty much as John says. There's no TV and no piped music, which makes it a good place to actually talk to people.

As of August 2008, the food situation is thus: the Fuller's website says food is served Monday to Friday, noon-4pm and 5pm-9pm (and this is backed up by a lunch menu examined by Kake). According to a staff member, the evening menu and lunch menu are very similar but differ in a few respects.

The quality and value of the food has varied quite a lot over the last couple of years. bob, Martin, elvum, Richard, Jacob and Hannah tried the food in October 2007. The general consensus was that the steak was small, overcooked, and generally worth closer to £6-7 than the £14 that it cost. elvum commented that approximately 4oz of steak for £14 is not a good deal. bob also wished the pie heresy (puff pastry on top of a bowl of stew) to be noted.

bob, Martin, elvum and Richard visited again in late May 2008. The quality of the steak was excellent, but the portion size was still a little on the small side.

The lunch menu as of August 2008 had sandwiches between £4.60 (mature Cheddar and Branston pickle) and £5.90 (rib eye steak with fried onions); filled jacket potatoes between £4.90 (e.g. mature Cheddar and baked beans) and £5.50 (cured salmon with dill creme fraiche); ploughmans between £5.50 (e.g. pork pie and wholegrain mustard) and £6.50 (cured salmon again); and mains between £7.30 (mushroom, spinach, and goat cheese frittata) and £11.50 (chargrilled rib eye with handcut chips and mixed salad). Aside from the aforementioned frittata, the other main course vegetarian options was glamorgan sausages (£7.90), served with either "mustard mash, slow cooked peas, and red wine gravy", or handcut chips and beans. Desserts were £3.70 (lemon tart with passion fruit coulis) to £4.20 (e.g. caramelised pineapple and mango skewers with raspberry and mint sorbet).

bob and several others visited in May 2013 on a Wednesday evening. The pub was very quiet. The beer was very good as it has been everytime we have visited. The food was pretty good. Richard was very happy with his steak if not so enthused by the jenga chips (£15)photo. Robbie enjoyed his Fish & Chips (£9.80)photo. Martin had a decent burger (£9.80)photo. bob had a basket of whitebait which was a specialphoto and a portion of chips (£3.80)[www.flickr.com/photos/rjw1/8783161287/in/set-72157633887907748 photo] both of whuch were very good.

Food serving time in May 2013 are Mon-Fri 12:00-16:00 17:00-21:00, Sat 12:00-19:00, Sun 12:00-17:00.

Accessibility: Belgrave Mews West is cobbled throughout, with no smooth surfaces. There are two or three steps up into the pub. The gents' is on the same level as the rest of the pub, but the ladies' involves several steps.

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Getting here: The Star can be quite hard to find, but it's worth it for the beer. It's easy walking distance from several tube stations: Knightsbridge Station, Sloane Square Station, and Victoria Station.

GPS data collected by Kake on a Garmin eTrex, 12 April 2007, and released into the public domain: OSGB 528113, 179347

Last visited by bob and others, May 2013. Opening hours and food times taken from website, May 2013.

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