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Shepherd Neame pub near Greenland Dock in [[Locale Rotherhithe|Rotherhithe]].
A Shepherd Neame pub near Greenland Dock in [[Locale Rotherhithe|Rotherhithe]], though as of September 2008 [http://www.hostmoreleisure.com/home.html Hostmore Leisure] claim to run it.
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There are plenty of solid wooden tables around the long room, stretching back to a decent sized beer garden out back. A very long bar dominates the room <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/55935853@N00/2843739515/ photo]</small>. There's a separate smaller room in front of the main entrance, where the toilets can be found <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/55935853@N00/2844576600/ photo]</small>. A large-screen TV stands in the corner of the room, behind some large leather couches.
There are plenty of solid wooden tables around the long room, stretching back to a decent sized beer garden out back. A very long bar dominates the room. There's a separate smaller room in front of the main entrance, where the toilets can be found. A large-screen TV stood in the corner of the room, behind some large leather couches, but it was turned off. Music was playing in the background, and was for the most part not too off-putting.
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When [[bob]] visited on a Sunday afternoon in April 2007, the food looked quite good and quite a few of the tables were pre-booked.
On [[bob]]'s visit in April 2007, the beer was pretty good, and the porter was &pound;2.85. In September 2008, despite having seven handpulls, only two were on (Spitfire and Whitstable Bay, the latter &pound;3.05/pint), and one other was off (Cornish Buccaneer). They also have Oranjeboom and Holsten lagers, as well as a few others, but the selection of beers isn't great. However, the tempranillo was a perfectly decent red wine at &pound;17 a bottle.
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[[Ewan]], [[Kake]], [[secretlondon]], [[doop]] and Jo visited again on a Monday evening in September 2008. The TV was turned off. Music was playing in the background, and was for the most part not too off-putting, though perhaps just a touch too loud for entirely comfortable conversation.
The food looked quite good and quite a few of the tables were pre-booked on a Sunday afternoon. On a weekday visit in September 2008, our party tried the spicy bean burgers (&pound;9), which they offer with a variety of toppings (there are four burgers and about eight toppings, to be mixed and matched) -- [[Ewan]]'s mushroom and caramelised onion burger was very tasty, as were Jo's and [[doop]]'s with mozzarella and onion. The fries on the side were not exactly chunky as advertised, but were hand-cut and of a very high quality.
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On [[bob]]'s April 2007 visit, the beer was pretty good, and the porter was &pound;2.85. In September 2008, despite having seven handpulls, only two were on (Spitfire and Whitstable Bay, the latter &pound;3.05/pint), and one other was off (Cornish Buccaneer). They also had Oranjeboom and Holsten lagers, as well as a few others, but the selection of beers wasn't great. However, the tempranillo was a perfectly decent red wine at &pound;17 a bottle.
[[Kake]] had a hefty steak (&pound;13) which came with a small salad <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/secretlondon/2841723199/ photo]</small>, but more substantial sides (such as green beans or chips) were priced separately at &pound;2.50 each. [[secretlondon]]'s mixed grill (also with the salad) was a bit cheaper at &pound;9, but not quite as good in quality as the steak <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/secretlondon/2841713995/ photo]</small>. She thought it was overpriced for what it was. [[secretlondon]] was still hungry and ordered the vanilla cheesecake for &pound;5 <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/secretlondon/2841733227/ photo]</small> which wasn't very exciting and the ice cream had bits of ice in it.
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In September 2008, a few of our party tried the spicy bean burgers (&pound;9), which they offer with a variety of toppings (there are four burgers and about eight toppings, to be mixed and matched) &#8212; [[Ewan]]'s mushroom and caramelised onion burger was very tasty, as were Jo's and [[doop]]'s with mozzarella and onion. The fries on the side were not exactly chunky as advertised, but were hand-cut and of a very high quality.
A quiz night is advertised for Tuesdays.
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[[Kake]] had a hefty steak (&pound;13 for a 12oz sirloin) <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/secretlondon/2841723199/ photo]</small>. This was more meat than she actually wanted, but 12oz was the only size of steak available. It was cooked rare as requested, and with very good charring on the outside; recommended, if not cheap. [[secretlondon]]'s mixed grill was a bit cheaper at &pound;9, but not quite as good in quality as the steak <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/secretlondon/2841713995/ photo]</small>. She thought it was overpriced for what it was. Note that neither of these meals included any sides other than a small salad; more substantial sides (such as green beans or chips) were priced separately at &pound;2.50 each.

[[secretlondon]] was still hungry and ordered the vanilla cheesecake for &pound;5 <small>[http://www.flickr.com/photos/secretlondon/2841733227/ photo]</small> which wasn't very exciting and the accompanying ice cream had bits of ice in it.

A sign seen in September 2008 advertised a quiz night on Tuesdays.

Accessibility: Step-free access to the main seating area, the bar, and the toilets. Not sure about the beer garden.

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* [http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/comments.shtml/2421/ Beer In The Evening comments]
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* [http://russiadock.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/a-nineteenth-century-pub-ship-and-whale.html A Rotherhithe Blog article on the history of the pub]
* [http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/comments.shtml/2421/ Beer In The Evening comments]
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* [http://www.qype.co.uk/place/268921#reviews Qype comments]
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<div class="last_verified">Last visited by [[Ewan]], [[Kake]], [[secretlondon]], [[doop]] and Jo, 8 September 2008. Opening hours taken from the Ship And Whale website, July 2013.</div>
<div class="last_verified">Last visited by [[Ewan]], [[Kake]], [[secretlondon]], [[doop]] and Jo, 8 September 2008.</div>
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summary='Shepherd Neame pub in Rotherhithe.'
website='[http://www.shepherdneame.co.uk/pubs/pubs.php/shipandwhale Shepherd Neame]' website='http://www.shipandwhale.co.uk/'
summary='Shepard Neame pub in Rotherhithe'
website='[http://www.shepherdneame.co.uk/pubs/pubs.php/shipandwhale Shepherd Neame]' website='http://www.shipandwhale.co.uk/'

A Shepherd Neame pub near Greenland Dock in Rotherhithe, though as of September 2008 Hostmore Leisure claim to run it.

There are plenty of solid wooden tables around the long room, stretching back to a decent sized beer garden out back. A very long bar dominates the room. There's a separate smaller room in front of the main entrance, where the toilets can be found. A large-screen TV stood in the corner of the room, behind some large leather couches, but it was turned off. Music was playing in the background, and was for the most part not too off-putting.

On bob's visit in April 2007, the beer was pretty good, and the porter was £2.85. In September 2008, despite having seven handpulls, only two were on (Spitfire and Whitstable Bay, the latter £3.05/pint), and one other was off (Cornish Buccaneer). They also have Oranjeboom and Holsten lagers, as well as a few others, but the selection of beers isn't great. However, the tempranillo was a perfectly decent red wine at £17 a bottle.

The food looked quite good and quite a few of the tables were pre-booked on a Sunday afternoon. On a weekday visit in September 2008, our party tried the spicy bean burgers (£9), which they offer with a variety of toppings (there are four burgers and about eight toppings, to be mixed and matched) -- Ewan's mushroom and caramelised onion burger was very tasty, as were Jo's and doop's with mozzarella and onion. The fries on the side were not exactly chunky as advertised, but were hand-cut and of a very high quality.

Kake had a hefty steak (£13) which came with a small salad photo, but more substantial sides (such as green beans or chips) were priced separately at £2.50 each. secretlondon's mixed grill (also with the salad) was a bit cheaper at £9, but not quite as good in quality as the steak photo. She thought it was overpriced for what it was. secretlondon was still hungry and ordered the vanilla cheesecake for £5 photo which wasn't very exciting and the ice cream had bits of ice in it.

A quiz night is advertised for Tuesdays.

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Last visited by Ewan, Kake, secretlondon, doop and Jo, 8 September 2008.

GPS data collected by bob on a Garmin eTrex, 1 April 2007, and released into the public domain: OSGB 536549, 179373


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